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How many of you honestly got a scale when the reel was fully spooled and measured the reel's drag tension and then fished with that reel keeping the same settings?
I mean, throwing numbers just like that is easy, but when we speak about numbers, they should be backed-up by actual measurements.
My 50w reel is well measured, and when i say that i had no problem reeling in a fish at over 50lb drag, i mean that based on the previous measurements on my digital scale keeping same settings.
Someone said is not about power is about the technique - man - that's 100% TRUE - and i have to give him credits for that. You can be 500lb if you do not master the technique on how to keep your rod for long battle under high drag pressure, you'll be done in short minutes. I was done in minutes at my first shark, but man, when i got the technique under my belt, an 8-9ft hammer had no chance to go nowhere, and in 20 minutes was right next to the pilings powerless - no harness, no gloves, no belt with drag over 50lb continuously.
I can't wait to challenge myself with higher drags - but for that i need a different reel or to be spooled near to the bottom on my 50w - but that - i don't see it coming often since an 8-9ft hammer barley run more then 120-150yds at 50lb drag from second one of the fight.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 3:52 pm
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im sayin im 6'4 210 and i have problems with 60lbs of drag and can only do it strapped in i work out a lot and bench over 300 curl on straight bar over 100 and dead lift almost 400 thats why i call BS on all this 120 lbs of drag

IDc if you can bench 1,000 lbs its not about how strong you are its about technique.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 5:15 pm
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We need a video of this.. proof is in the pudding.

I dont see why you cant hang on With the right rod it should be no problem. I would imagine a 5' rod or so would be your best bet.

When you are comfortable in your gear and you know your gear anything is possible.

Why would a company build a reel if its not humanly possible to fish it?? ? ? ijs I'll fish 50+ lbs of drag all day long on my 9' gator glass with no problem.not stand up of course well i havent tried it but sitting down i can.if I can fish a 9' rod with half the drag i bet i can fish it with twice the amount on a 5' rod.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 5:20 pm
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Ok again I've been shark fishing since I was 12 nd I'm 23 now I would like to think that in 11 years I ha e some technique since I've brought in hundreds of sharks but thibk what u want until I see a video of someone standing with not restraints holding 120lbs of drag while line is being pulled I'm not believing the BULLSHIT people saying bottom line prove me wrong with more than just "Fish stories"


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Posted : 11/16/2011 5:23 pm
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im sayin im 6'4 210 and i have problems with 60lbs of drag and can only do it strapped in i work out a lot and bench over 300 curl on straight bar over 100 and dead lift almost 400 thats why i call BS on all this 120 lbs of drag

IDc if you can bench 1,000 lbs its not about how strong you are its about technique.

whats the technique about fighting sharks on lock downed drag? thats all you do is hold on, therefore it is about how strong you are


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Posted : 11/16/2011 5:28 pm
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I bet he'll say its bput the bend in your back and your rod and how u use your legs which again all takes muscle to do


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Posted : 11/16/2011 5:42 pm
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@boghy dan had his trx on a scale so he knows exactly how much his reel puts out and for every one else ive seen the video of his 11 foot tiger and been there tons of times when dan fishes his t rx its full rag all the time and i know not every shark is pulling 100+lbs of drag butit can be done with strength, technique, and proper belts and harnesses and it helps when your not the idiot fishing crazy drag for big sharks and not having some bigger spotting you or holding on to the straps


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Posted : 11/16/2011 5:51 pm
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It's possible to fish it seeing as they are tuna reels meant for a fighting chair while being strapped in its not like they said hey shark fish this from the beach or pier ita a reel meant for tuna and marlin offshore in a boat that can move


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Posted : 11/16/2011 6:04 pm
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I bet he'll say its bput the bend in your back and your rod and how u use your legs which again all takes muscle to do

It's all about using your legs of course, unless you're having more muscle in your arms, which i doubt.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 6:27 pm
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The thing is no shark is able to pull 120lbs out. I put my TRX on a digital scale and it pulled over 160lbs out, Its not BS because they are all like that. John witmens Red Trx got 157 range, but in all reality i have never taken out drag from lock down (even when i left the rod straight in the rod holder.) If you have this setup : TRX with 300lb Jerry brown on the beach with a full harness and you get hooked up to a monster that shark is cumming in or your line is snapping. I promise this year i plan on catching my big hammer and ill do my best to get an accurate video of how i fight it on the TRX


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Posted : 11/16/2011 6:27 pm
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The thing is no shark is able to pull 120lbs out. I put my TRX on a digital scale and it pulled over 160lbs out, Its not BS because they are all like that. John witmens Red Trx got 157 range, but in all reality i have never taken out drag from lock down (even when i left the rod straight in the rod holder.) If you have this setup : TRX with 300lb Jerry brown on the beach with a full harness and you get hooked up to a monster that shark is cumming in or your line is snapping. I promise this year i plan on catching my big hammer and ill do my best to get an accurate video of how i fight it on the TRX

Oh i don't doubt that SOME actually did measured they reels at full spool, but i do doubt that MOST DID.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 6:30 pm
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The thing is no shark is able to pull 120lbs out. I put my TRX on a digital scale and it pulled over 160lbs out, Its not BS because they are all like that. John witmens Red Trx got 157 range, but in all reality i have never taken out drag from lock down (even when i left the rod straight in the rod holder.) If you have this setup : TRX with 300lb Jerry brown on the beach with a full harness and you get hooked up to a monster that shark is cumming in or your line is snapping. I promise this year i plan on catching my big hammer and ill do my best to get an accurate video of how i fight it on the TRX

Oh i don't doubt that SOME actually did measured they reels at full spool, but i do doubt that MOST DID.

Well me and john are nerds so we did :lol:


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Posted : 11/16/2011 6:38 pm
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The thing is no shark is able to pull 120lbs out. I put my TRX on a digital scale and it pulled over 160lbs out, Its not BS because they are all like that. John witmens Red Trx got 157 range, but in all reality i have never taken out drag from lock down (even when i left the rod straight in the rod holder.) If you have this setup : TRX with 300lb Jerry brown on the beach with a full harness and you get hooked up to a monster that shark is cumming in or your line is snapping. I promise this year i plan on catching my big hammer and ill do my best to get an accurate video of how i fight it on the TRX

Oh i don't doubt that SOME actually did measured they reels at full spool, but i do doubt that MOST DID.

Well me and john are nerds so we did :lol:

If you know your gear down to numbers, you'll most likely understand WHY something went wrong if anything fails while pulling in a big one. What someone believes that is possible others don't, but one thing is for sure - not everyone will or had experienced SAME style of fishing or same size of shark. I never experienced drags over 100lb but i don't say i don't believe is possible either. Why? Because i can't say something that i never tried personally. But if let's say someone would say that 50lb drag is not possible to hold your grounds, i would have to disagree with that person since personally I caught fish on thous drags settings.
What nobody mentioned nowhere in these posts, is how your face will look like when the rod comes towards your face after the line snaps at high drags - say over 50lb drag? Did anyone even thought about this? When using high drags, there are way more things to consider then pulling and reeling in a big fish. If you wanna look pretty for the rest of your life, make sure you practice how to stop your rod to bullet you in the face at any given time when a sudden snap happens. Trust me, you won't regret that you practice that to be ready for when that happens.
When i use high drags, i rather use my lags to pull and one of my hand is all the time in guard to stop a bullet type speedy rod coming towards my face. We all know how expensive these days are the cosmetic surgeries not mention $1,000 per teeth implant.


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Posted : 11/16/2011 7:07 pm
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Well me and john are nerds so we did :lol:

If you know your gear down to numbers, you'll most likely understand WHY something went wrong if anything fails while pulling in a big one. What someone believes that is possible others don't, but one thing is for sure - not everyone will or had experienced SAME style of fishing or same size of shark. I never experienced drags over 100lb but i don't say i don't believe is possible either. Why? Because i can't say something that i never tried personally. But if let's say someone would say that 50lb drag is not possible to hold your grounds, i would have to disagree with that person since personally I caught fish on thous drags settings.
What nobody mentioned nowhere in these posts, is how your face will look like when the rod comes towards your face after the line snaps at high drags - say over 50lb drag? Did anyone even thought about this? When using high drags, there are way more things to consider then pulling and reeling in a big fish. If you wanna look pretty for the rest of your life, make sure you practice how to stop your rod to bullet you in the face at any given time when a sudden snap happens. Trust me, you won't regret that you practice that to be ready for when that happens.

That could possibly kill you IMO, You should be safe using a broomstick that doesn't bend at all or a shorter rod though


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Posted : 11/16/2011 7:11 pm
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im with you on the short rod im not using a 10 ft rod with 100+lbs of drag to much bend for it. or at least i think


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Posted : 11/16/2011 7:18 pm
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